[Music] Hello I’m Marcus Railton and this is the Scotscare podcast. Scotscare is the only charity dedicated to helping disadvantaged Scots in London through a range of support including mental health therapy, financial grants, advocacy, sheltered housing for older Scots, job coaching, social events, befriending and support for Children and Families. The Charity’s been running for 400 years to help break the cycle of poverty experienced by some Scots.
In this series of the scotscare podcast I’ll be chatting to celebrities and supporters of the charity that have also forged a life in the capital away from home and about the ups and downs that can bring.
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on the podcast today is a musical artist who alongside his brother has been making music for over 35 years together they’ve sold millions of
Records globally their band is called human cry and he is Greg Kane Scott’s
care [Music] welcome Greg thanks for doing this you’re welcome Marcus I’m looking
forward to it go easy on me of course hello are you at what now do you do you go into the studio every day or or do
you are you more laid back about work these days uh I try to the I’ve got a
good friend uh Jared Burns who’s a very successful artist in Scotland he painted
the famous um massive highland cow paintings with the wee girl holding the Highland guy
with the the Rope through its nose or the ring through its nose and Jerry’s a good friend of mine as I usually go
through to his house in dilator which is outside cumbernauld beautiful Bay goes but it doubles as his art studio and his
Gallery it’s that bigger house so he can he doesn’t need a gallery and he doesn’t need an art studio and he says to me he
goes every morning at eight in the morning and he paints till five and he says it’s not always successful and I
said oh jelly I can’t I can’t I couldn’t do that and he said it’s like strong enough
forgive me come up against the wall to see how much of it sticks I can’t create like that but he can and he doesn’t it
seems to the hardest thing about being a creative is there’s more failures than there are successes and it’s how you
deal with the failures and that’s that makes you successful because if you dwell on them and they start to eat away
at you then they can really destroy you um your confidence in being a Creator and then I tried that nine to five
Monday to Friday cool it was really really hard so we have our own Studio here in Glasgow
we’ve got a big control room big live room and an office space
and this is a nice little man cave where we come and make our music so we’re very very very lucky to have this space and
he’s up just now from London for a week to do some work with me we’ve um we played down in Essex end of last week
with simple minds and he just jumped in the tour bus and come up the road with me and uh he’s going to be here till
Saturday so I don’t do the nine to five um sometimes I like to stay over here
try and stay overnight in studio two or three times a month um probably my partner enjoys it as well
getting rid of me for a few nights a month but um it’s a very creative space and I used to go away to make music
and Hades I used to go to New York quite a lot for like a month or two and write and recording part would come over or as
a place in Florida called Sarasota which is the Winter Camp the winter home for
the uh Chicago White Sox and the Barnum and Bailey Circus and it’s a real
creative Vibe a place I used to go there for like a month every year just to write and just to make stuff and then
what closer to home I used to go up to the lake of Monteith which is the only Lake in Scotland and um Chris the guy
who married into the neon family is a friend of mine he’s an old truck driver for us so he looks after the Charlie so
he’ll give me like a cash deal right wink no don’t say anything and I can go up there for a couple of weeks and do
some work but then nine years ago I had a child so they kind of Disappearing for a month
to kind of get your creative depths is not really an option anymore no it’s not on it’s just not accepted anymore is it
yeah well I really really struggled and um it’s unfair in her mother to say like I
need to bug her off for a month to be creative it doesn’t it’s not fair I couldn’t I can’t do that and then she’s
nine years old now you’ve uh so she’s a bit easier now she can come and sit in the studio and she can sit in the live
room and she can put her about but you know every hour and a half every year she comes in and asks which which to her
is quite an important question but not to me so it doesn’t really work um so I’ve really struggled creatively
over the last few years and then covert hit and that was terrible I didn’t have
any enthusiasm for making anything it was really really tough I think we are about
the same age and I it’s like you you were talking about how you deal with your failures do you feel more comfortable generally in your own skin
now I think it’s taken me a long time to get there I think I you know I I’m I turned 51 just a
couple of weeks ago and I still unfortunately care probably too much
about what people I don’t know think of me or are you getting past that oh no um
we passed out I’ve never really but I have a different life I mean I’m just in a new relationship four years one and
I’ve been together and it’s taken her a long time to understand what I do
um I don’t need a justification or I’m a eagle massage because you know 50 times
a year I got up on a stage in front of hundreds sometimes thousands of people um and I play songs with my brother for
an hour and I get Applause and I get Pats in the back and I get that was great and that’s my way Joel of Euro K
Greg and then I’ll come back after usually about two or three weekends a month we go away and I came back to
normal life and I don’t need any kind of ego boost or um ego support because I’ve
just had it and the thing as well is hearing Caribbean Brothers uh on a Duo I watch these artists who
are Solo artists um and they have to do all this on their own Pat and I at least have got like kind of support
um mechanisms for each other we do it together so we’re very very lucky but I want to talk about that actually
I’ll come on to that a bit later can I go back to the beginning what age do you what age did you take up the piano
because my wife’s always saying you know what we’ve got to get the kids into something Musical and I remember when I was a kid I went to piano lessons in in
Faithfully just outside clydebank and I showed no musical talent and my mum
would make me practice every week and I was just I just didn’t have it what age did you start off and did you did it
come if not easily did it come natural to you obviously that’s the number two bus
isn’t it that goes oh gosh
what happened we my mother’s stepfather died and he bequeathed the piano to her
so that was put and Mom and Dad bought a house he couldn’t afford as a big house and they worked tirelessly to make all
the mortgage payment stuff like that but when there was a room that was spear in it and
um this piano was deposited there after my grandfather died and then
um my local mother was in the local shop and the piano teacher that lived a few doors down was in the shop which was
kind of tightened for business and she said to her mom any of your boys want to learn how to play piano and because I think she’d seen the piano
being delivered to the house and um I was downstairs first that morning it was a Sunday morning and Mum paused the
question and I said yeah so if Pat had to come down first up one and he might have been able to join and I mean being
completely different my life may have gone a different way but I studied piano classical piano from the age of nine
till I was 16 I sat all my exams in the so the afternoon that beautiful building
at the top of the cannon street where the Hard Rock Cafe is now that’s where I went from all my piano lessons and I had
a fabulous music teacher at school a guy called John P Keithley who was a
um the organist at motherwell cathedral which is one of the most beautiful cathedral organs in the country
um and John took me under his wing when I was a kid um at high school and he’s appointed me
in the right directions and the school’s so supportive but in really weird ways the most supported guy apart
from a music teachers at school her High School Was the janitor he used to let us rehearse in the stage
back at the stage in the Assembly Hall when the cleaners were in between four and six
so we’d flee rehearsal space and we used to store our gear at the side of the stage and he would let us make a racket
and this isn’t it he was such a kind man and you’d think it’d be like you know
overhead master of school was Bob campsie he was the first brain of Britain so he was very musical so he
used to come not every time but a few times he came and sat and listened to his play and assemble Hall between four
and six and was obviously critical because he was a big collapsious man but uh there was lots of little support
things happening all over the school and you would like to think that still happens today I mean my daughter her
mother’s a musician as well um she’s playing with Goodbye Mr McKenzie at the moment and she’s toured
the world with her band the hedrons um and either my daughter’s got me who’s a
professional musician as well but she’s going to interested music and in this place I’m sitting there’s one two three
pianos in here and when her friends come to visit here they just leap on the pianos and they sit and play and my
daughter will say come on let’s go make slime don’t want to play piano let’s make slime she’s not even she can sing
and she can dance but she’s sweet we put her into the Royal conservator in Glasgow they’re all conservative music
from the top 10 skills in the world for music so um I know Tommy Smith the dean
of the Jazz um course and I know some other people uh Phil connions the dean of the child
course okay yeah I’m brilliant and top of their game lecturers so I thought
this would be great for you when she was young cheated she begged not to go so you never know I mean my Mom and Dad my
mom and dad were musical so I mean we didn’t get it from them but do you think your daughter shows do you think
she has inherited a musical Talent do you think it might come out my father-in-law he he was a musician he played in the
band in the 60s called the medievals and they had a couple of hits and so my wife and her three brothers all seem to have
this ability when when I’m at their house they can pick up a guitar or a
piano and listen to something and just start to pick it out without any kind of formal musical training I wonder if Eva
will inherit that from you or her mom see I know being a classically trained penis I have
my early years were all about practice and I had a practice regime that you
can’t really break because as soon as you stop playing you know you need to go you go backwards in your ability so that
was drummed into me by my piano teacher and Pat and I as hearing cry we use a lot of jazz musicians and
he talked to them about the history and their story and most musicians are quite anti-social because they’ve spent so
much of their time practicing and and on their own because you can’t practice anybody else you practice on your own so
look lessons are insular for that reason a lot of singers are into it because they live near monastic lice well the
ones they can still sing they don’t go they can’t do they can’t go out talking and shouting in pubs for hours and then
because at wrecks the vocal cords and they’re always resting because they’ve got to sing you know three times a week
for two hours at a time so musicians are you know by Nature very insular and very
kind of anti-social people so I mean my daughters no anti sure I mean I was a review YouTube when I was weak because
we was playing the piano and then at 13 when I got to school um there was they had orchestral
orchestras and the instruments together to kids and they gave me a saxophone so I started playing saxophone from 13 and
um ended up playing at that time saxophone was quite prominent in in music there was a Boomtown Rats there
was Hazel the corner there was UB40 and obviously Jared after his Baker
Street those tax form was everywhere so I started gigging when I was 15 16 years old and to learn God saved the queen
pretty quick because most of the gigs went on tools I know you tell her I’m not my dad used
to go nuts did you play it again I said yes Dad and do you think it would if if your
daughter showed an interest later would you be happier for her to be a musician because it can be a tough old life it is
a tough old life I mean I’ve been through I mean I can do poo and I can do rich I’ve been both multiple times and
there’s not a kind of exponential Traction in the music business you kind of you know it’s all about Peaks and
troughs and again I go back to the thing about dealing with the failures you just musicians and creative people have got
robust mechanisms for dealing with failure and I I guess it’s all the
knocks um I mean another thing is my daughter um has been modeling since she was three
so it’s not that she’s the most beautiful kid in the whole world although she is the most beautiful girl in the world of course but
um her mother was a debt collector for a model agency that was her spare part-time job as well as being a
musician so when we had Eva um obviously you’re probably posting your photographs on
Facebook and the girl that owned the modulations he said of course she knew everyone and she knew me is look you
fancy book you know we need a two-year-old to do this shoot and there’s more to do with the parents been complying or
understanding because it’s all hanging about you know what it’s like you know and that puts a lot of honest on the
paints to keep the kids entertained to give them instructions all that sort of stuff so the more ladies especially kids
more agencies look at the parents and the more the more analyzing the parents ability to deal with a kid for six uh
for a six hour shoot and when the kid needs to perform for 15 minutes they better be ready to make the kid performance anyway long story short
she’s been quite a successful uh Model Eva and we’ve been on the sides of buses
she’s been she was the the Christmas campaign lead for Enoch Center in Glasgow last year and it’s gone really
well for her but she only gets about 50 of the gigs she goes to the auditions I
take her half the time and then she always gets to choose a not get to choose but she gets a fake dad and a
fake mum and you know I always wind it up saying look at your fake dad he’s much more handsome than me he’s much taller than me he’s much better than me
is Dad so I mean I’ve got to deal with that as well but um she gets rejected 50
of the time and as a parent you’re trying to protect them from rejection yeah but she had to
face it she had to face it and I watched her deal with it and if she had a particularly handsome uh fake dad and a
nice pretty fake mum I know it’s usually has a kind of fake two-year-old daughter or brother and she gone really well them
and the more competitions she’ll say to me dad what what happened to that so well you didn’t get it I need to give it to somebody else and she deals with it
and she talks about it so that whole career she’s had since she was two years old has taught her how to deal with
failure and I didn’t even think that was going to happen when she started doing this but I watched her deal with it and
I thought good on you here now that wasn’t subjected to that at that age
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the same as me and you’ve got two two stepsons I’ve got two sons and then you have had a daughter uh slightly later on
in life and it’s a different world isn’t it because when my boys go quiet I know something’s wrong but when my
daughter goes quiet I will find her just playing or drawing or something and girls are a different species aren’t
they well as I get I’ve grew up in a house of Three Brothers I’ve got a younger brother Gary John I obviously my
older brother Pat so there’s two or three years between us um so I only knew how he said boys
and then as I say I’ve got my two stepsons who are just they’re just about to leave the nest
um and my nine-year-old daughter which is mine so I don’t know much about girls I
mean I’m trying to think if there’s anything that I’ve learned and yes you’re right
they they do seem to be able to kind of build a little fantasy space for themselves and they can amuse themselves
for um any length of time my daughters know a big screen girl she’s got her iPads
and she’s got her iPhones but but what she looks at on the iPad is all about creating stuff so she’ll look at the iPad for half an hour I won’t see any
complaints to see the idea of scissors with paper clips do you have paper and I need a green crayon and yeah so and then
I’ll say what do you need all this for and she shows me the kind of Creator sites is found on YouTube there I mean those are amazing those sites that the
kids watch yeah there’s only people just making crafts we may never had that you know I mean I don’t worry about our um
at all she’s got her in Scotland all the under 22 year olds get three bus passes she’s got a free bus pass the other day
and I let her go on the bus and they’re on their eyes are as wide as sauces when she comes back loved it that was a first
sense if I can go anywhere I want that you can go anywhere you want you’re Inverness do whatever you want so she knows she’s
got her she’s got her phone with a SIM card in it and she’s got a free bus pass she’s got freedom she’s got freedom
that’s brilliant let me talk about when you were talking about going back to dealing with the failure of things
because you’ve done something that you loved and you did from a very young age into you know it’s when a hobby comes a
job and but I mean and you do seem very grounded Greg but was there ever a point you just thought oh saw this for a game
of soldiers I don’t want to do this anymore no um I’m very Hands-On so I I I’ve done many
different things I mean I’ve been a tour manager I’ve been a roadie I’ve been a driver I’ve been lots of things when Pat
wanted to not wanted I wanted a break from the music business um sort of late 90s you just didn’t want
to do it as much anymore yeah I’ve been a recording engineer all my life I started with a code engineer
when I was 16 17 years old so I just started I’ve got a lot of jazz music so I started doing a lot of live jazz Sound
Engineering and some recordings I ended up working with the Scottish national Jazz Orchestra and
um I must have met when you’ve got what is it there’s 22 of them and you’re
laying out all the seats and you’re laying out all the music stands and you’re making up all the makes and you’re staying and honestly you you
smell like you played squash for about four hours because you’re working so hard
and then you’re forced in to stir it all up and the orchestra comes and plays and the audience turns up and in your last
day because you’ve got to break it all back down again that’s a shift but I quite enjoyed doing it because one
it keeps you fit um you’re still involved in music and what you love doing
um so I mean never have I thought even in situations like that when you’ve been working for 14 hours and you’re thinking
good and you just want to hit the hay and just you up in the morning you do the same again so I mean I’ve been through years of of I’ve been out on the
road and you know to my wind to Texas I’ve been to Japan Tokyo with different bands and I know quite a lot about the
music business could have been doing it for so long so I’m there just to kind of Point them in the right direction and help them there was one band I had and
we were in Tokyo and they were doing really well and we went for a big interview and there was loads of people
waiting to interview them at the record companies offices and the first interview I sat with them and the young
young kids 19 20 years old and the Japanese interviews are obviously Keen to know what the Glasgow visual business
music seems like they’re talking about you know bands like Bill and Sebastian and the delgados and all this Indie
stuff and the band I was with just slagged them all off that’s crap so I stopped the first
interview and I brought them downstairs and I said what the hell are you doing well they are rubbish no no no no no no
no this is these are bands are saying to this record people the building you’re in oh that’s just so
please and look at the faces these journalists have just want to find out what this seems like if you don’t like a
band just say they do their own thing I would don’t completely say they’ve been watching far too many Oasis interviews
yes and they’ve flown you to bloody Tokyo and you’re slagging off all their
plan so we’re back up continued our day of interviews and they were well behaved to the move for a lovely meal at the end
of it so I’ve always found myself in situations like that I’m just trying to see it in other bands and musicians I
work with you know I’ve been doing this for like nearly four years you should lean on my experience and I find myself
in situations slagging off bands I’ve done exactly the same thing when I was a kid and I’ve just went oh no why did I
do that you know so there’s a lot of little instances like that but Pat and I
you know been doing this for so long I know I’ve never ever thought I don’t
want to do this anymore yeah I’ve got an hgv1 license I could be a truck driver when they needed truck drivers
um during the pandemic there I did think about it and I went to talk to a guy who knows a truck driver and he said Greg uh
I moved 42 tons of Pilots today I said what on my own
and uh the facilities are absolutely shock and yes if you want to do it he says but I’m away five six days at a
time I don’t see my kids don’t see my wife and I looked at it and I thought because there was no money for two years
yeah to leave your business so everybody had to was trying to find ways to diversify
and I looked at that and I thought I can’t do that and I’m usually quite robust but I couldn’t that’s a hard
graph there wasn’t oh yeah and plus you’ve got a set of 55 males an hour
whatever these tanking past you at 75 it must be the most frustrating I mean I learned to do it because all the trucks
were used um back in the day when she would cry on a much bigger band and I used to reverse
and play with them in the car parks at the venues we played in and then eventually went and took my test so that’s how I did it I’ve never lifted
and Lead pallets I don’t know who work a forklift truck I need to learn how to do that so I didn’t do that and all I did
was um I did a lot of audio restoration throughout the pandemic bizarrely people
somebody came to me and said I’ve got this piece of audio and it’s a it’s a
poetry it’s I mean it’s quite it was his wife that died um of cancer and she recited poetry not
long um before she passed and through friends he said can you there’s
lots of crap I recorded it really badly I recorded on my phone and decked the phones and there was loads of it so I
did I restored it and presented it to him and he gave me money I said I don’t want any money he said no no it was a
job and then he put me on to some other people and I ended up restoring like so wedding speeches
you’ve got people shouting you’ve got Cutlery you’ve got um noise everywhere take all that out no oh don’t take it
away but reduce it and you can make it more legible and more understandable and then from then people will have always
been restoring old soul records so people were bringing old tapes there’s a great thing that happened well the
recording studios never made it a lot of them over the last 10 years but what happened in America was these
railroad recording studios and places like Detroit and Nashville and um
was that I can’t remember that it’s enemy he’s uh
recording studio is closed and what they did was they auctioned off the cupboards so the cupboards could contain nobody
knew it was like tapes and and um old uh realtor reels and old vinyls and then
you couldn’t afford to bid on the whole cupboard they split it into a shelf in a cupboard so these two guys have been
over in Detroit bitten in these auctions putting in a box sometimes not going to try just bidding on a shelf they don’t
even know it’s there but there’s tapes and reels and they would come home and they’d sift through them and then they’d
contact me and say look we’ve found these three things and never been released of artists that we know about can you restore them so that meant I
didn’t really need to meet anybody I didn’t need to go anywhere I would just sit here and it’s quite a painstaking thing to do it takes a long time to do
but um I’ve really enjoyed that and I’ve got quite good at it you know so that
sort of saved me from going back in our truck and moving 41 yeah 40 tons of
parts I do it was a strange time and I know I know your parents have both passed away now and did that change you
as a person or change your musically um I think one of the things my dad in his
last few years kept telling me to worry less and I don’t think I ever really got it and then when he went I kind of got
it a little bit I kind of yeah you’ve got to take a step back be a little bit more objective about life oh no I’ve always been able to take a I
can do a big picture step back thing I’ve always been able to do that I don’t get um I don’t go down rabbit holes other
than when I’m researching or studying but I don’t you know I’ve always been able to step back my father was he
retired early he was a manager in British Rail and he famously sacked Alan McGee and oh
really used to slide you and cry but he said it wasn’t for the dad stacking me I
probably wouldn’t have started creation records so every time I meet Alan we always have a bit of a laugh
um he apologizes for slagging to you and crying I apologize for slagging and he says um but uh when British real were
modernizing my dad and they were bringing in computer systems for all the kind of uh registered stuff and my dad
was a Personnel manager um on the south side and he offered retraining or retirement 53 and he
retired at 53 and he did nothing he’ll enter speak Italian you like going to actually twice a year but didn’t do
anything so when he died at 78 so he’d like 25 years of hanging out with his
Pals going for walks he didn’t have a dog he was a strange guy he was like what I could I couldn’t retire that
young he just couldn’t do it but that’s what happened to him so he was very supportive he was very they were very
worried the the two young Sons were involved in the Hedonism of the music business but apparently weren’t drug
takers were big drinkers we even the Hedonism thing wasn’t the attraction the attraction was getting to go to New York
to work with great musicians getting to tour the world getting to see these fabulous European cities that was a
thing that excited us um and then my mother she was always very supportive she was a district
Midwife um and then she moved into elderly care after she finished being a midwife she
died about oh three years ago um I read a bit that Pat wrote about
your mum and she’s beautiful she seemed a real Force she was she was um
she was well known in the community I mean Pat and I could know even when Hugh and Clara first successful we were still
known as that’s one of me Kane’s boys she was well better known in the town
than us because she was a she was a classic District Midwife I mean these people knew everything about everybody
and they didn’t take any crap I mean mum I remember I was coming I was walking back from the
town one day and these three Neds that were close to me and asked me for money or whatever I was with my friend I was
on my own but my two friends were behind me and these two guys didn’t realize I was with other people so once my two
other friends joined in they kind of backed off a wee bit and it was calm down and I looked at the gang going
where’d you get that shot What’s it gonna do you that’s my shot no it’s not
when I got home I said to my mom what else see this shirt wasn’t me and I said to my mum
mum did you what did you do with that shirt okay
so we finally doing there would be no money I just put a bag together for them I said well see the guy that you gave the shot to
so I mean I mean that’s the kind of things my mom used to do I mean used to hate your favorite clothes because you
would just put them in a bin bag and take them back to these families that had nothing and she was always doing stuff like that she was such she was
such a caring person um she was the kind of she was enthusiastic at the beginning of
supporting sort of her dreams I mean God knows what they thought when both their
sons were involved in the music industry they must have had quite afraid but we were successful very early on so I mean
I guess that made them a little calmer but they’ve watched the peaks in the draw throughout the last 35 years
um and just shook their heads most of the time and and helped us some of the times I mean when Pat slept from his
wife and he moved back home for like two or three years and that was my mum went and
just called him said come on your nuts 11 and you know you come live here so that brought him a relationship with his
father again and the relationship with his clothes on the ship with his mother so she was still acting as a vegetable
mother even then and I went back home for a couple years in the late 90s because it was all
getting too much for me um and it was great it’s great to move back home really well obviously my dad
was too chuffed but um I enjoyed it Scott’s care supporting Scots away from home in
London you see you were talking of Peaks and and troughs and you still seem very
grounded you know is that a Scottish thing or a family thing and another thing I would say to you is well what
did money give you but what did Money allow you to do because you said you had money you lost money you had money again
is there is there is there one thing that money was good for
um let me think um experiences I guess
um there was never much time to spend the money because you would always be working when I was away
all the time um when probably five six years I was never home either turned are we working
um so I mean I wasn’t really I’ve never been a big property owner I’ve not really kind of thought right I’ll invest all my money I’ve never been like that
I’ve lived in so many houses all over and rented and it’s never really bothered me the kind of property route I
was a bit of a petrol head when I was younger so I bought some nice cars and I quite enjoyed them
up the bike in my mum’s there was a every steak and Sunday
if you walked up the back of the hill in my mum’s of these big big houses and um there was this brown Ferrari used to sit
outside this house it was obviously our son president needs Forks and it was beautiful and it was no
chocolate brown and I used to stand there rain and snow just looking at it and I’d peer in the window because I
loved the design of it I love the way it sat on the road and once the guy came out and he shoots me away and he was
like oh hey don’t don’t do anyone near the car and I kind of trudge back down the road and my mom said don’t keep going up
there someone it’s beautiful like looking at the car and this is true I said if I have a car like that
I would come out with the keys and say do you want to say and it’s done yeah that’s what I would do so Wayne Ford
what would that be 12 years later 13 years later I had a Porsche 911 right
bright red beautiful and it was definitely say my mums and my dad used to say Guy Greg put that can you park
our way from the house I said oh Dad don’t get dumb she does Four Winds around that
oh three range around that so I came out and you know well I remember that’s your scene and the boys are the bikes and I
said put the bikes in the front garden jump in I said where do you live well and they lived in the roughest managed
to State called Town head cold Bridge so off we went up to downead and around the
house we put it when they’re doing they’re all shouting at their powers and stuff like that and I drove back dropped them off and I said no boys if you ever
see this car could you keep an eye on it ah yes what a rush they had so I felt good at
myself my dad’s shooting his head tighten up so then the next day I’m in my house and my phone goes and it’s my
dad my dad never phoned me I said dad is having okay there’s 30 them here in the
garden so they got their box to come at the end Master is here
I’m staring them in here you’re in Egypt that’s great that’s but I mean no that’s
the kind of stuff that’s from my mum though that’s from uh she’s a kid a nurse carer cares for
people it’s thoughtful that all comes from a mum but she needed my dad because he was practical and a bit grumpy and a
bit tight so she needed that because she’s all flamboyant and caring and would give her last penny to everybody
and my dad so I kept her in check and you’re you’re still you’re back on
the road you’re doing I see I was looking at your website and I was talking to some people in this and you’re doing some nice festivals and I
like taking the kids to festivals to see bands that I grew up with and I was playing my 13 year old Noah I was
playing ordinary Angel to him and I hadn’t I hadn’t listened to it there was such a brilliant tune from when I was
when I was younger and I was do you know what that sounds odd but it still stands up it still
sounds really fresh and Noah went oh that’s a great tune and you love the way it begins with it with the kind of I
don’t know why would you describe the building a kind of Indian sound to it maybe um we it’s uh the whole thing about the
olden Angel the whole premise of the song it’s you know we’re all over the Angels winning tiny victories so that the whole intro of the song was to be a
kind of world music um kind of uh a musical piece so in um when we
recorded that song in New York you could contact this agency and they would this is before the internet they would
um tell you what kind of world musicians they had and then Russian throat singers they had um
Indian sitar players and tablet players and we’d everybody and I mean the multi-tracks recordings of that intro
there were so many different versions of it and it’s twice three times as long as actually the one that’s on the record because it was just a meeting it was
like I don’t know like a zoo of different world musicians and that was the whole idea of that whole intro cost
an absolute Fortune the primary it was a long intro on the actual record yeah yeah only on the record it’s quite a
long answer but that’s it edited so um when Pat introduces the song just now at the festivals you know this is a
song for fans that stay with bands and bands that stay with fans you know we’re all in this together so it was like kind
of a collective um uh thought for that song for people just to stay together and to and to be
together and and to work together that’s what the song’s all about so I mean it has to detest the time it’s got an 808
drum machine that’s got um 80 cents and all over it and yeah
like what for us and it still works to this day the fans love it when we play it Greg thanks for joining me today
thanks for being on the Scots podcast it’s been a real Delight speaking to you well thank you Marcus I hope I didn’t
waffle too long but I really I’ve really enjoyed that you’ve brought back some good memories and then when he didn’t make us have a cup of coffee and think
about mum and dad for five minutes before I start my work
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